Tucker Carlson interview with Tony Bobulinski, ex-Hunter Biden associate, speaks out on Joe Biden

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>> Tucker: WE JUST SHOWED YOU

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>> Tucker: WE JUST SHOWED YOU

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THE FIRST 20 MINUTES OF OUR

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INTERVIEW A FEW HOURS AGO WITH

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TONY, WELL KNOWN INTERNATIONAL

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BUSINESS MAN WHO WAS ASKED BY

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THE BIDEN FAMILY TO DO BUSINESS

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WITH THEM IN CHINA.

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HE MET WITH THE FORMER

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VICE PRESIDENT TWO SEPARATE

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TIMES AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THE

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CHINA BUSINESS DEAL.

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THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN OUT

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FOR SEVERAL WEEKS, THE HANDS OF

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A NUMBER DIFFERENT OF NEWS

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ORGANIZATIONS AND THE REASON YOU

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ARE HEARING IT FOR THE FIRST

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TIME IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE

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RESOLUTELY IGNORED IT AND TO

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SUPPRESS THE STORY.

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THERE’S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF DETAIL THAT NO ONE HAS REFUTED

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DETAIL THAT NO ONE HAS REFUTED

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BECAUSE IT’S REAL.

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WHAT WAS NOTABLE THAT JOE BIDEN

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DIDN’T DENY ANY SPECIFICS ABOUT

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HIS CONNECTIONS TO THE CHINESE

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COMMUNIST PARTY AND HIS FAMILY

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DOING BUSINESS THERE AND HE

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HIMSELF PARTICIPATED IN THAT

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BUSINESS.

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INSTEAD, DISMISS THE ENTIRE

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STORY OUT OF HAND AND SUGGESTED

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THAT TONY BOBULINSKI WHO WAS A

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VETERAN, FORMER NAVAL OFFICER

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WAS PART OF A RUSSIAN

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DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN AIMED AT

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THIS COUNTRY.

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HE CITED A LETTER FROM FOR

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FORMER NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE

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FOLKS FROM ALMOST ALL OF THEM

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PARTISANS, EVERY ONE OF THEM A

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LIAR, NONE OF THEM HOW TO

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DIRECTLY ASSESS THE INFORMATION

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AND NOT ONE OF THEM CALLED TONY

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BOBULINSKI.

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JOE BIDEN SAID THAT ON STAGE SO

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WHEN WE SPOKE, WE ASKED HIM HIS

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REACTION TO THAT AND HERE’S WHAT

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HE SAID.

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TELL ME ABOUT THE CONVERSATION,

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WHAT DID HE SAY TO YOU?

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>> THERE WERE TEN PEOPLE RUNNING

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AROUND GETTING SOMETHING TO

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DRINK AND WE WERE BACKSTAGE IN A

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CRAMPED SPACE AND JUST ASKED HOW

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I DID AND WHAT I THOUGHT OF THE

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SPEECH I DID A GREAT JOB IN THE

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SPEECH AND OBVIOUSLY IT’S A VERY

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SERIOUS THING WE SHOULD ALL BE WORKING TOGETHER TO SOLVE, LOST

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WORKING TOGETHER TO SOLVE, LOST

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A SISTER-IN-LAW TO CANCER AND

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JUST SORT OF ASKED ME TO KEEP AN

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EYE ON HIS SON AND HIS BROTHER.

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>> Tucker: WHAT DO YOU THINK

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HE MEANT BY THAT?

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>> I THINK HE WAS CONSCIOUS OF

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THINGS AND I CAN’T SPEAK FOR

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HIM, I WOULD LOVE FOR HIM TO GO

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ON RECORD AS I REFERENCED

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EARLIER, ONLY SITTING HERE

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BECAUSE NOT ONLY HAVE THEY NOT

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GONE ON RECORD, THEY’VE DENIED

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IT AND HAVE TARRED MY FAMILY

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NAME, LONG HISTORY OF SERVING

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THIS COUNTRY AND HAVE OTHER

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CONGRESSMEN NOW TALKING ABOUT

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RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION.

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>> THIS WHOLE SMEAR ON JOE BIDEN

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COMES FROM THE KREMLIN.

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>> I HELD A TOP-SECRET

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CLEARANCE, AND SERVE THIS

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COUNTRY FOR FOUR YEARS AT ONE OF

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THE MOST ELITE ENVIRONMENTS IN

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THE WORLD, AND TO HAVE A

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CONGRESSMEN OUT THERE SPEAKING

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ABOUT RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION OR

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JOE BIDEN HAD A PUBLIC DEBATE

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REFERENCING RUSSIAN

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DISINFORMATION WHEN HE KNOWS HE

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SAT FACE-TO-FACE WITH ME

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TRAVELED AROUND THE WORLD WITH

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HIS SON AND HIS BROTHER TO SAY

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THAT AN ASSOCIATE THAT WITH MY

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NAME IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING TO

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ME.

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>> Tucker: DID YOU COMPLAIN

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ABOUT THAT?

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TO SUGGEST THAT YOU WERE

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COMMITTING TREASON FOR PART OF A

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FOREIGN ATTACK ON OUR DEMOCRACY

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WHICH IS HOW THEY CHARACTERIZED

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IT.

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IT IS SUCH A SERIOUS AND I THINK

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UNFAIR CHARGE.

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>> YOU’RE EXACTLY EXACTLY RIGHT,

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PUBLICLY ACCUSING ME OF TREASON,

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TREATING ME LIKE I’M

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INSIGNIFICANT FOR THE 50 YEARS

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OF HISTORY THAT MY FAMILY SERVE

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THIS COUNTRY IS INSIGNIFICANT

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AND THAT’S WHY AM SITTING HERE,

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I ASSURE YOU THIS IS THE LAST

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PLACE I WANT TO BE RIGHT NOW IN

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THE LAST THING I WANT TO BE

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DOING RIGHT NOW, BUT I FEEL LIKE

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AS A PATRIOTIC DUTY TO THIS

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COUNTRY AND EVERY AMERICAN

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CITIZEN TO GO ON RECORD AND

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DEFINE THE FACTS FOR THEM AND

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LET THEM DO THEIR OWN WORK, LET

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THEM DECIDE HOW THEY VIEW THOSE

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BUT FOR THE BIDEN FAMILY TO DENY

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THESE FACTS AND THEN NOT ONLY

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DENY THEM, COULD HAVE JUST SAID

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NO COMMENT.

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THEY BROUGHT IN RUSSIAN

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DISINFORMATION AND BASICALLY

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ASSOCIATED MY NAME WITH THAT

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WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING

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TO ME AND I HAD TO GO ON THE

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RECORD.

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LAST WEEKEND, I WAS IN VIRGINIA,

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MY SISTER-IN-LAW PASSED AWAY

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AROUND SATURDAY MORNING.

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SPENT 27 YEARS AND JUST RETIRED

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SO YOU CAN IMAGINE ME DEALING

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WITH THAT AND THE TRAGEDY OF

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THAT.

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WHEN I SAW ADAM SCHIFF GO ON

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RECORD TALKING ABOUT RUSSIAN

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DISINFORMATION AFTER THIS EMAIL

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HAD BEEN POSTED ONLINE BY

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"THE NEW YORK POST" AND REMEMBER

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THAT EMAIL WAS TO ME, IT WAS TO

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ME STATING THAT I WAS GOING TO

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BE THE CEO OF THIS ENTERPRISE.

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SO I TOLD HIM THAT THAT

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STATEMENT IS RETRACTED BY

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CONGRESSMAN SCHIFF BY MIDNIGHT

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ON SUNDAY THAT WAS GOING ON

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RECORD AND DISPOSING ALL THE

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FACTS OF THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT

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GOVERNMENT, TO THE AMERICAN

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CITIZEN ENDS OF THE WORLD.

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I WAS HOPING THE BIDENS WOULD DO

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THE RIGHT THING OR HE WOULD

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RETRACT HIS STATEMENT BUT I

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COULD NOT ALLOW ANOTHER MINUTE

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OR HOUR OR DAY OF MY FAMILIES

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NAME TO BE ASSOCIATED OR MUDDIED

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UP AROUND RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION

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SO EVEN AS I SIT HERE TODAY, I

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WOULD ASK THEM TO GO ON RECORD

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AND STOP USING MY NAME OR

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ASSOCIATING IT WITH RUSSIAN

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DISINFORMATION.

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IT’S DISGUSTING.

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>> Tucker: SO THIS IS THE

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REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BIDEN

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FAMILY, SO YOU SET THIS TO HIM.

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I JUST WANT THEM TO RETRACT THE

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ACCUSATION THAT I’M AN

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INSTRUMENT OF RUSSIAN

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DISINFORMATION.

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WHAT DID HE SAY?

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>> UNDER A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF

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STRESS, A WIFE AND A CHILD AND

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SAID LET ME MAKE SOME CALLS,

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CALL GEORGE AND SEE WHAT I CAN

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DO BUT HE SORT OF PRESENTED IT

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AS IF THAT’S GOING TO BE

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IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO GET DONE

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AND I’M NOT NAIVE.

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I KNOW THAT’S NOT IMPOSSIBLE.

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THAT’S A SINGLE PHONE CALL FROM

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JOE BIDEN TO ADAM SCHIFF SAYING

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GO ON RECORD AND RETRACT YOUR

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STATEMENT.

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HE GOT OVER YOUR SKIS AND WHEN

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THE STATEMENT WASN’T RETRACTED,

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READY TO GO ON RECORD AND HOW

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THAT RECORD WAS WAS WILLING TO

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GO IN FRONT OF ANY SENATOR, AND

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A CONGRESSMAN, THE DEPARTMENT OF

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JUSTICE, THE FBI OR SIT HERE

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WITH YOU AND BASICALLY PROVIDE

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THE FACTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

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AND LET THEM MAKE THEIR

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DECISION.

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THIS ISN’T A POLITICAL FOCUS OF

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MINE.

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PEOPLE WERE ACCUSING MY FAMILY

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OF TREASON AFTER I SERVE THIS

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COUNTRY AND DEFENDED THIS

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COUNTRY.

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>> Tucker: THE REASON YOU

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WOUND UP HERE IN THIS INTERVIEW

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AND I JUST WANT TO AFFIRM.

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IS BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE TOLD YOUR

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STORY.

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SO WERE YOU SURPRISED GIVEN THE

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TROVE OF DOCUMENTS YOU HAVE,

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GIVEN THE CREDIBILITY BUT I

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THINK IS APPARENT THAT YOU HAVE

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THAT NO OTHER NEWS ORGANIZATION

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TOOK THE TIME TO UNPACK THE

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STORY?

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>> SURPRISES PROBABLY

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UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR,

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SHOCKED BECAUSE IT WOULD BE

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DIFFERENT IF THIS WAS MY WORD

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AGAINST JIM BIDEN, HUNTER BIDEN,

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AND JOE BIDEN.

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THAT WOULD BE A SLIPPERY SLOPE,

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NOT SOMETHING I WOULD TAKE THE

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PERSONAL FAMILY RISK ON IT BUT I

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PROVIDED MORE DOCUMENTS AND

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FACTS THAT VALIDATE TIMES,

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MEETINGS, WHO PARTICIPATED.

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THAT WAS GENERATED BY SOMEBODY

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ELSE SENT TO ME.

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WASN’T ME GENERATING THESE TEXT

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MESSAGES I PROVIDED OR HUNTER

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BIDEN IN THE FIRST PERSON, ROB

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WALKER IN THE FIRST PERSON, IT’S

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NOT ME GENERATING THE TEXT

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MESSAGES, IT’S THEM SPEAKING, SO

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YOU CAN INTERVIEW THEM.

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THE FBI CAN INTERVIEW THEM, OUR

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GOVERNMENT CAN INTERVIEW THEM,

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BUT I WAS SHOCKED THAT NOT ONLY

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THE MEDIA IS NOT ONLY DISCUSSING

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THIS, THEY ARE GOING TO THE

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OTHER EXTREME DISMISSING IT AS

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RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION.

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WE WENT THROUGH THREE YEARS OF

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EVERY DAY RUSSIA, RUSSIA,

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RUSSIA.

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IT’S JUST ABSURD.

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THE COLD WAR IS OVER.

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>> Tucker: AND THEY’RE SAYING

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IT ABOUT YOUR FAMILY.

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THE BIDEN FAMILY KNEW THAT YOU

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WERE GOING PUBLIC WITH THIS AND

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YOU SPOKE TO ROB WALKER ABOUT

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IT, THE SELF-DESCRIBED BIDEN

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FAMILY REPRESENTATIVE.

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WHAT WAS HIS RESPONSE WHEN YOU

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LET HIM KNOW THAT YOU WERE GOING

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PUBLIC WITH THIS?

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>> TRYING TO COACH ME, TRYING TO

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SAY WE DON’T WANT TO DO THAT, WE

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DON’T WANT PRESS TRUCKS OUT IN

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FRONT OF OUR HOUSE AND WE HAVE

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TO MOVE BECAUSE IT’S MY JOB AND

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ALL OF THAT, I’M NOT TRYING TO

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CAUSE ANY HARM TO ANYONE IN THIS

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SITUATION LET ALONE ROB WALKER

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AND HIS FAMILY, BUT BASICALLY,

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HIS POSITION WAS IF YOU GO ON

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RECORD, YOU WILL BURY ALL OF US.

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>> IF HE DOESN’T COME OUT ON

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RECORD, I AM PROVIDING THE FACT.

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>> Tucker: WHAT WAS YOUR

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RESPONSE TO THAT?

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>> I WAS FOCUSED ON PUSHING

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THESE GUYS TO DO THE RIGHT

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THING, TO DEMONSTRATE AN OUNCE

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OF INTEGRITY IN FRONT OF THE

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AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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THEY ALL KNOW THE FACTS.

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I LIVED THE FACTS AND ALL THE

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FACTS ARE EXTREMELY WELL

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DOCUMENTED.

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I’M IRRELEVANT IN THIS

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DISCUSSION SO I CAN WRITE OFF IN

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THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN READ

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THESE TEXTS AND LISTEN TO THE

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RECORDING, THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS

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THAT WERE EXECUTED AND THEY CAN

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FORM THEIR OWN CONCLUSION.

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THEY DON’T NEED ME TO FORM THE

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CONCLUSION FOR THEM.

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>> Tucker: GIVE US A SENSE OF

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YOUR CONTACTS WITH HUNTER BIDEN.

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A LOT OF THIS IS COMPLEX, AND

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THIS IS TELEVISION SO WE ARE NOT

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PUTTING EVERYTHING WE HAVE ON

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THIS, BUT FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT

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SUSPECT YOU DIDN’T REALLY HAVE A

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LOT OF CONTACT WITH HUNTER

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BIDEN, GIVE US A SENSE OF THE

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PLACES YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS

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WITH HIM AND OVER WHAT TIME

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FRAME.

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>> OBVIOUSLY AS WE ALREADY

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DISCUSSED THROUGHOUT 2015 AND

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2016 WHILE JOE IS STILL THE

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SITTING VICE PRESIDENT OF THE

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UNITED STATES, THESE GUYS HAD

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BEEN DOING EXTENSIVE WORK AROUND

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THE WORLD IN PLACES LIKE

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LUXEMBOURG, ROMANIA THAT I WAS

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BEING MADE AWARE OF THAT I

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OBVIOUSLY HADN’T COME OFF THE

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BENCH AND AGREED TO BE PART OF

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THIS.

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>> Tucker: I HAVE TO ASK, THEY

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DON’T SPEAK ANY OF THESE

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LANGUAGES, NONE OF THEM HAS ANY

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RECORD OF SUCCESS IN BUSINESS OR

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A BACKGROUND, WHY WOULD THEY BE

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DOING BUSINESS THERE?

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>> BECAUSE THEY HAVE

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RELATIONSHIPS ON THE BIDEN NAME

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THEY ARE ABLE TO SET UP MEETINGS

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AND GET PEOPLE TO JUMP THROUGH

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HOOPS AND AN INTEREST TO GARNER

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FAVOR WITH THE SITTING

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VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN.

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>> Tucker: SO IT LOOKS LIKE

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THAT’S A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS

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GUY, SOMEONE WHO IS FLUENT IN

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THE ANGUISH.

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>> TRAVELED AROUND THE WORLD FOR

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DECADES, VERY LOW PROFILE

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INDIVIDUAL, AND IS SHORT AND IS

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A LEGITIMATE AS THEY COME.

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>> Tucker: HUNTER BIDEN AND

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JIM BIDEN HAVE A WELL-DOCUMENTED

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DECADES LONG, LONG RECORD OF

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BUSINESS DISASTERS, DID YOU GET

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IN A SENSE OF EITHER ONE OF

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THESE GUYS MOLLIFIED TO BE

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CONDUCTING THIS KIND OF

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BUSINESS?

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>> THE ONLY QUALIFICATION THEY

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HAD WAS THE BIDEN NAME.

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>> Tucker: BUT THEY SEEM TO

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HAVE PARLAYED THAT INTO QUITE A

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FEW DEALS IN QUITE A FEW

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COUNTRIES AND I INTERRUPTED YOU,

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SO CONTINUE WITH WHERE THEY WERE

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DOING THIS DEAL.

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>> SO WHEN I DECIDED TO COME OFF

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THE BENCH AND ENTERTAIN THE CEO

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OF THE HOLDINGS, WAS BROUGHT UP

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TO SPEED ON THE WORK THEY WERE

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DOING IN LUXEMBOURG, FRANCE,

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ROMANIA, KAZAKHSTAN, AND STUFF

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LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS ALL

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GOING TO BE INTEGRATED INTO

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THOSE HOLDINGS, SO U.S. TO THE

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EXTENT THAT I SPENT TIME WITH

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HUNTER BIDEN.

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I PERSONALLY WAS IN BUCHAREST,

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ROMANIA, WITH HUNTER BIDEN, JIM

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BIDEN, ROB WALKER, I WAS IN

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MONACO FOR THE ANNUAL GRAND PRIX

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THERE, SUPPOSED TO SIT WITH

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HUNTER BIDEN, I MET HIM ON THE

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PATIO OF HIS HOTEL AND I SAT

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THERE AND WAITED FOR TWO HOURS,

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AND YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW ANGRY

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AND FRUSTRATED AFTER SITTING

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THERE FOR TWO HOURS WAITING FOR

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HIM WITHOUT A TEXT OR PHONE CALL

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TO LET ME KNOW I CAN’T MAKE IT

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OR AM TIED UP IN A TEXT THAT I

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THINK YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF AND

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SAW THE NEXT DAY, HE

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AGGRESSIVELY COMES BACK AT ME

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THAT HE COULDN’T ATTEND THE

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MEETING, THAT HE HIMSELF SET UP.

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I STEPPED AWAY FROM FAMILY AND

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FRIENDS, AND NOT THAT I WAS ON

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WITH MY FRIENDS TO GO SIT WITH

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HIM FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS, AND

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HE IS EFFECTIVELY SCREAMING INTO

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THE PHONE THAT HE COULD NOT PICK

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UP THE PHONE AND TEXT ME BECAUSE

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HE WAS WITH THE UKRAINIANS AND

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THE FOUNDER OF BURISMA AND WAS

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FIGHTING FOR THE ONLY INCOME HE

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HAS ON A DEAL THAT APPARENTLY HE

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NEGOTIATED.

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I HAD NO EXPOSURE TO THAT DEAL.

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I’M NOT AWARE OF ANY OF THE

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PARTICULARS OF THAT DEAL.

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I JUST KNOW FOR A FACT THERE IS

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A DEAL BECAUSE HUNTER BIDEN TOLD

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ME THERE WAS THE TEXT THAT I

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THINK YOU GUYS HAVE ANY WILL

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SHOW TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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IT’S NOT MY JOB TO DETERMINE

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WHAT THAT DEAL IS, I WILL LEAVE

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THAT UP TO THE FBI OR THE SENATE

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AND CONGRESS TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

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>> Tucker: I JUST WANT TO

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RESTATE THIS, YOU ARE NOT A

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GRIFTER, NOT SOMEONE WHO IS

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SELLING ACCESS, A LEGITIMATE

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BUSINESS MAN WHO HAS DONE DEALS

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IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT COUNTRIES

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SO I JUST WANT YOU TO ASSESS

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ONCE MORE IS THERE ANYTHING

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ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN’S PERSONAL

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EXPERIENCE, PERSONAL

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QUALIFICATIONS THAT WOULD

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JUSTIFY HIM DOING A DEAL IN

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KAZAKHSTAN?

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>> ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

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THE ONLY THING THAT HE HAD WAS

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THE BIDEN FAMILY NAME AND THE

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FACT THAT HIS FATHER AT

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ONE POINT OBVIOUSLY WAS A

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SITTING VICE PRESIDENT AND

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POTENTIALLY WOULD RUN AS A

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FUTURE PRESIDENT.

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>> Tucker: IT SOUNDS LIKE A

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REMARKABLY AMBITIOUS

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INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PROGRAM

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THEY HAD RUNNING.

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>> EXTENSIVELY.

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>> Tucker: THIS IS A SMALL

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POINT THAT I CAN’T GET OVER.

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SO YOU’VE SAW A NUMBER OF

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REPORTERS SAY AGAIN IN AN EFFORT

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TO BACK AWAY YOUR STORY, YOUR

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TESTIMONY ON THIS THAT THE

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CHAIRMAN REFERRED TO IN A BUNCH

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OF THESE EMAILS WAS NOT

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JOE BIDEN WHO WAS IN FACT THE

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GOVERNMENT OF CHINA.

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WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE REFER TO THE

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CHAIRMAN THINKS THIS IN THE

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CHAIRMAN THINKS THAT, THEY ARE

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THINKING ABOUT CHINA AND NOT

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JOE BIDEN.

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SO HERE IS A TEXT MESSAGE YOU

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RECEIVED FROM HUNTER BIDEN TO

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YOU.

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BOTH JAMES’ LAWYERS IN MY

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CHAIRMAN GAVE AN EMPHATIC NO, I

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THINK WE SHOULD ALL MEET IN

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ROMANIA ON TUESDAY NEXT WEEK.

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SO YOU’RE HEARING REPORTERS SAY

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THAT CHAIRMAN WAS THE CHINESE

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GOVERNMENT.

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HERE YOU HAVE ROB WALKER

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RESPONDING TO YOU, CLEARLY SOME

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CONFUSION OVER THIS WHEN HE SAID

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HIS CHAIRMAN, HE WAS TALKING

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ABOUT HIS DAD.

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>> CORRECT, TO CHAIRMAN IN THIS

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STORY, THE CHAIRMAN OF CFC AND

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THAT TEXT FROM HUNTER BIDEN, IT

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WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE

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CHAIRMAN OF CFC AND WHAT HUNTER

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IS REFERENCING THERE AS HE SPOKE

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WITH HIS FATHER AND HIS FATHER

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IS GIVING AN EMPHATIC NO TO

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PUTTING PROPER GOVERNANCE IN

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PLACE AROUND THE HOLDINGS.

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>> Tucker: SO JOE BIDEN IS

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VETOING YOUR PLAN FOR PUTTING

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STRICTER GOVERNANCE IN THE

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COMPANY.

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AND IT’S RIGHT HERE IN THE

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EMAIL.

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>> I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN

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FRONT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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THAT IS NOT ME WRITING THAT,

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THAT IS NOT ME CLAIMING THAT,

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THAT’S HIM WRITING ON HIS OWN

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PHONE TYPING AND THAT I SPOKE

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WITH MY CHAIRMAN REFERENCING HIS

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FATHER.

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THE WORLD THINKS THAT THAT IS

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NOT HIS FATHER, THAN HUNTER

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BIDEN WOULD COME FORWARD A AND G

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ON RECORD AND SAY TO THE WORLD.

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>> Tucker: BUT YOU HAVE ROB